I am using their test cyp, tren enan & bold on my current cycle. I used their thermosim mix at the end of my last cycle when I dumped med tech. Novo seems better than most stuff I've used in the past in terms of strength and quality. I like the lighter oil. By comparison, I get Normas at the pharmacy here and they're like syrup. These shots are smooth and painless. That was a nice surprise, particularly for 2ml quad shots. Those usually cause me grief. I turned on my training partner, a few other local guys, and a friend in Italy to the brand. None has any complaints and I know people love to complain. So I wholeheartedly give it thumbs up.